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They told us it will take up to 8 weeks. I need to keep my 4yr. old away from her head for 8 weeks, I'm going to go CRAZY!!! The breader said I could return her, how can you do such a thing are they out of their minds! Do you just return a family member if somethings not right, I don't get these people. How could I return my baby, I love her to death!!!!


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"Hi Arabianknightress, you are right! The Pup is part of your family and HERE TO STAY"

 by DobermanLover on Sep 23 2008 (16 months ago)
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Following is all you could ever want to know about Ringworm.  From cause to cure.  Hope it helps and you hang in there.  This will pass and all will be well.

 

Ringworm

 

An occasional cause of skin conditions in pets is caused by Ringworm. The scientific name for this disease is Dermatophytosis. It is caused by a fungus not a worm, and the lesion is not always in the shape of a ring. Since fungi are everywhere in our environment, it is difficult to determine which pets will develop the problem. The fungus that causes Ringworm can be cultured from the hair coats of normal dogs and cats. These pets might be carriers of the disease to other pets along with people. We tend to see the problem more in young animals.

People will sometimes pick up a case of Ringworm from their pet, but just because a pet has Ringworm does not necessarily mean that the people that interact with that pet will develop the problem. A dog or cat can transmit Ringworm to a person without showing any symptoms at all.

 

 

Cause

There are 3 specific fungi of significance in this disease.

 

  • Microsporum canis

The source of this species of Ringworm is almost always a cat.

  • Microsporum gypseum

This species of Ringworm is usually from dogs and cats that dig into contaminated soil.

  • Trichophyton mentagrophytes

This species infects dogs and cats when they are exposed to rodents or the burrows they live in.

In cats, almost all cases of Ringworm are caused by Microsporum canis. In dogs the majority of cases are caused by Microsporum canis. Which of these 3 main dermatophytes causes the Ringworm in dogs depends on geographic location.

 

 

Symptoms

The skin lesions that appear with Ringworm are variable, and do not necessarily form a ring. There will be hair loss, usually in small patches at first. as time goes on the patches may disappear or appear at other locations on the skin. There might be scratching due to itchiness. If the hair loss occurs on the face or feet there is a chance it is due to digging habits or exposure to rodents.

This patch is typical of the lesion seen in Ringworm. A diagnosis of this disease can not be made based just on the appearance of this lesion because other skin conditions (Demodex for example) can show similar lesions.

 


 

Diagnosis

There are several different ways to diagnose Ringworm. All require some type of test because it is impossible to make the diagnosis just by looking at the skin. This concept holds true for all skin conditions; making a diagnosis of a skin disease requires all of the aspects of the diagnostic process.

If a person in a household has been positively identified with Ringworm by their physician it is possible they obtained it from their pet, even if their pet has no symptoms of the disease. This is especially important in multiple cat households. We will culture these pets using the culture technique we describe below, but in this case, we might run a new toothbrush over the hair coat to obtain a sample for culture.

One of the simplest ways to diagnose Ringworm is with the Woods lamp, which is an ultraviolet lamp, also know as a black light. 50% of the Microsporum canis species will fluoresce when the Woods lamp is placed near the area of hair loss.

The lamp emits a purple/blue glow from the tube, and when there is fluorescence on the skin, it has a greenish appearance. Other material on the skin (dander, medication, etc.) can also fluoresce, so interpretation is important.

Since only 50% of a certain species of Ringworm fluoresces under the glow of the Woods lamp, a culture is used to verify the diagnosis:

The first step in the culture process is to gently remove hair follicles in the area of the lesion

 

These hairs are cultured in a special media that inhibits bacterial growth and enhances fungal growth. This culture can be sent to our outside lab or done in house. Since a fungus is a slow growing organism it can take up to several weeks to determine if there is growth or not.

The positive culture on the right, from our in house lab, demonstrates two findings that are needed for a positive diagnosis. The first is the cottonish fungal growth, and the second is the reddish color of the culture media. This color change must occur at the same time the fungal growth appears.

The culture media prior to the start of the test.

Positive fungal growth after 10 days of incubation at room temperature.

 

Treatment

Topical shampoo therapy is used in almost every case, especially in longer haired pets. It is common to clip some or all of the hair in some pets to make it more effective. These baths will also remove infected hairs that can be the source of an infection to people or other animals.

Specific anti fungal cremes are also used when a pet is infected in an area that already has sparse hair growth, or there are small, discrete lesions.

Oral anti fungal medications are also used in select cases. They have the potential to cause side effects, so their use is confined to specific situations.

In some pets the disease may resolve by itself.

 

Prevention

Since fungi are everywhere it is almost impossible to prevent exposure. Pets that chase rodents, especially into burrows, might be at an increased risk.

 










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"calm down"

 by anmldr on Sep 23 2008 (16 months ago)
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doesnt sound like you had the situation explained to you very well .... first of all ringworm is a fungus not an actual worm -- it gets the name from the characteristic white circular line where the fungus is growing -- think of athletes foot though and you are closer to the severity of the disease --- it is contracted just by touch - you do not have to have an open wound --- it is harder to treat in animals because you often don't see the lesions until they are large -- the lesions often hide in the fur and are over looked --- often we diagnose ringworm in kittens only after their owners are diagnosed with it ---- i don't understand the 8 weeks time frame -- did that come from your vet or your md ---  i do agree if possible it is better to not use the oral medication unless it is a severe case but i say this from a cost sense more than anything -- it can rarely damage the liver but it is a very unlikely occurence --- if your puppy only has one or two small lesions and i saw her i would have you 1- bathe her in betadine scrub -- this is a soap that contains iodine - we usually bathe 2 -3 times a week for 2 weeks and yes it will stain  2 we have the owners buy an over the counter product like lotramin or gynelotramin and apply it to any obvious lesions as directed on the label -usually once a day for a week ---- dips that you speak of are usually lime sulpher and they stink and are no more effective than what i described --- in last 10 years i have had to use oral meds 2 times -- both on long haired kittens -- others have all cleared treating as i described -- 2 other thoughts -- in a worse case scenerio i would tell you to have the puppy clipped very short -- this way the medications can get to the skin and you can easily see all the lesions --- secondly this is a pretty mild problem -- my father was a vet so i was raised around ringworm infected animals --- i am a vet and have raised 3 children around animals and i am the only one who has contracted ringworm ---- 1 time --- on my hand --- if you will just use common sanitation practices -- ie wash your hands in preadyne/ betadine soap after touching the puppy and if you treat her as descrobed she should not be contagious in just a few days .... hope this helps ----- and if you did return the puppy i have no doubt the breeder would treat her and then find her a new home because it is easily cured ---- you treat her instead and enjoy her ... she will be fine

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""Oh My""

 by bONggAnG_Cai_NOyp! on Sep 24 2008 (16 months ago)
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i hate the people who said to return you baby.... me i will not do that to my 2 dogs... i would rather bring them to a vet for the doc to give the right medicine that my dog can drink... and also

you can contract ringworm by touching an animal with ringworm. Ringworm can spread while petting or grooming dogs or cats. just be patient and wait for 8 weeks if that's what the doctor says. atleast after 4 weeks your baby dog will be cured already...

 

i really love my dog to... so much.... so here some tips that i found out...

 

Diagnosis of Ringworm

To diagnose Ringworm your vet will need to do one of the following tests. It is not possible by just looking at the skin to make the diagnosis.

Wood's Lamp
An ultra violet lamp also known as a black light. Your vet may use this as 50% of microsporum canis will glow under the lamp.

Microscopic diagnosis
Your vet may look at part of the hair or skin from the lesion under a microscope.

Culture
Your vet may decide to take a scraping from the lesion and send it away to the laboratory to see what the culture grows.

Treatment of Ringworm

If no treatment is carried out, ringworm will run it's course in two to four months and the symptoms will resolve themselves. However, treatment is recommended to save your dog from suffering any longer than necessary and to cut down the period of time they are contagious

Griseofulvin

Your vet may prescribe Griseofulvin for your dog. It is an anti fungal drug that is used for dogs with ringworm but it does have some side effects so be sure to consult your vet before giving any medication. Griseofulvin inhibits fungal reproduction.

Shampoos and Dips:
Lime sulfur dips are often recommended

Dips should be given twice a week and can be performed either by your vet or at home. Please be aware that Lime Sulfur will stain clothing and jewelry and will cause temporary yellowing of the dogs hair. It also smells very strongly of rotten eggs. Follow your vets instructions for mixing the dip.

Decontaminate the environment

Use bleach mixed at 1:10 on any surface that you can. It will kill 80% of the spores. Vacuum on a daily basis a dispose of vacuum bags which will contain the spores. Steam cleaning of carpets and furnishings will also kill a large number of the spores.

Don't forget your dogs bedding and kennel. Wash the kennel down with a bleach solution and wash the bedding in very hot water. If your dog is an inside dog confine him to one room of the house.

 

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"Ringworm is not a worm but a fungus......."

 by Doglover928 on Sep 27 2008 (16 months ago)
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Yes, antifungal shampoo and dips can be beneficial if the lesions are severe.  These should be used in addition to clipping the hair around the lesions and using topical treatments such as Lotrimin.

 

A lime sulfer dip is often used.  It will stain clothing and jewelry and smells of rotten eggs.  If you use this follow your vet’s instructions for mixing it.  Doesn’t sound fun :-(

 

If the lesions are small and isolated, treatment can be done by clipping and treated twice a day with an antifungal medication such as Lotrimin.  That should take care of it.

 

In the meantime though, youd child is in danger of getting ringworm. So are you or any other member of your family. You Do need to keep your child and yourself away from the puppy to avoid infestation.

 

I am wondering if the breeder would be willing to keep the puppy while he or she treats if for the ringworm.  That way your child will be safe.  I don’t blame you for not wanting to give the puppy back, but this would ensure that your child does not get it.

 

That is what I would do if the breeder agrees to it.  I would think he would, as the puppy should have been free of infection when you bought her.  It is not the fault of the breeder that the puppy has it, but he may be able to help you through this difficult time and keep you and your family free from ringworm infestation.

 

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