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"Diddle-diddle-dum-dum-da-da-dum you mean? :D "

 by CleverMonkey! on Jan 05 2007 (37 months ago)
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This was discussed at length in the link above, you can read it all for yourself, but here are some of the key points from the discussion, check out especially the first post of page two, which contains a link to a likely precursor to this tune, from 1910.

Most likely originates with silent film, it was a common audio "theme", a little like the "villan" tune you can also hum, and the dum-dum-DAHHHH that you get for reveals etc.


Mainly, "asian effect" type music is the result of playing parallel fifths in a major pentatonic scale. It's ridiculously easy to do. Go to a piano, whip out two index fingers, and start playing two black keys with exactly 3 black keys between them. Move up, move down, but always in parallel. Presto. You're now a composer of "oriental-sounding" music.

It's largely the scale. Different musical traditions are based on different scales; most Western music was initially based on the major or minor scale; East Asian music is typically based on a five-tone, or pentatonic scale; our regular major/minor scale is nine toned, including both tonics. I don't think it's true that traditional Asian musicians never play the other four tones, but the focus of composition is clearly on the five main ones that they do use. IIRC starting with C the notes would be roughly C/E-flat/G/B-flat/C. Those might only be an approximation, however, some of the notes used might actually occur "between the keys", as it were. The 12-tone chromatic scale is a Western tradition.



Sources: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=300466&highlight=stereotypical+chinese
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"It's still up for debate."

 by prettyface on Jan 05 2007 (37 months ago)
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Most believe it was a western invention of what "sounded" Asian. 

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Asian Riff

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Melody of the Asian Riff
Melody of the Asian Riff
A more-accurate sheet music for the Asian Riff
A more-accurate sheet music for the Asian Riff

The Asian Riff is a musical riff or phrase that is often used to represent east Asian culture. The riff typically signifies Chinese culture, but in some cases it has been used to signify Japanese culture as well. The riff is also known by an extremely diverse set of names: "The Chinese Melody", "The Stereotypical Oriental Tune", "The Asian Jingle" or the even the "trope of musical orientalism".

It remains an open question as to whether the Asian riff has an actual Asian origin or is purely a Western invention. The notes used in the riff are part of a pentatonic scale, giving the riff a resemblance to Asian music.

[edit] In popular culture

The "Asian Riff" has been included as part of numerous musical works. One of its most famous incarnations was in the 1974 #1 hit single "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas. The riff has been included in a number of other popular songs, including "Bad Detective," first recorded by The Coasters (1964) and covered by New York Dolls (1974), "A Passage to Bangkok" by Rush (1976), and "Turning Japanese" by The Vapors (1980). A similar musical phrase used in "China Girl" by David Bowie (1983) is often seen as an homage to the Asian Riff.

The riff is sometimes accompanied by the sound of a gong.


Zach Galifianakis, a contemporary musical comedian, includes the Asian Riff in his act:

Whenever my Asian roommate walks in the door, I play this. [he plays the Asian Riff]. And she says "Zach, why do you do that every time I come in the room?" and I say "Because I don't have a gong."

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Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Riff
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I am one too! As soon as I saw your question I remembered having read that thread ages ago, and had to go find it for you! They more or less solve it by the end of the thread, but I was running out of time and had to submit.
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