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Since I seem to be having a Joan Baez weekend, I remember a poster she was on, which probably came out about 1968 or 1969. It was in black and white, and there were three pretty girls on it, one of which I think was Joan. I never knew who the other two were. I think the girls were holding daisies. The caption read, "Girls say yes to boys who say no." I had this poster on my closet door for a while. (My mom was unusually tolerant about that.) Since I was only 13 or so, I didn't really understand what the poster meant; in my head, it meant that girls would kiss/date boys who were opposed to the war. That was all that "saying yes" meant to me at the time... I was opposed to the war in a black/white, naive, 13-year-old way, and it was only years later that I came to realize how terribly we treated those men who fought in Viet Nam, equating a hate of the war with hate of those soldiers. I still feel ashamed for that.

So, who was on the poster, and what was the backstory?


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"Joan Baez"

Hightest Level: 6 by -Poppet- on Mar 29 2008 (20 months ago)
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It was Joan and her two sisters, Pauline and Mimi, on that 1968 poster!  According to David Frum:  "The poster sought to counter the fear that draft resistance was unmanly by promising draft resisters the traditional rewards of the warrior: the, um, attentions of beautiful and admiring females." 
http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzQzYWEzZTMxNDg2YTYwZTM2OTA1MmE2YTZlYzE5MzM

Proceeds from the poster sales went towards draft resistance.   She had just performed at Madison Square Garden, and told the crowd that "if you feel that to go to war is wrong, then you must say no to the draft. And if young ladies feel it's wrong to kill, then you can say yes to the young men that say no to the draft".   

Wow. It's kind of shocking to hear that now; someone telling young girls to offer sex if a guy avoids the draft! 
 Times and thinking have certainly changed in 40 years (thank goodness!)


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"Yes. 1968 draft resitance, Baez and her 2 sisters. "

by quatie on Apr 01 2008 (19 months ago)
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Yes!  The poster was created by Larry Gates to raise money for the Draft Resistance in 1968.  Joan Baez was very active in the draft resistance movement and operated the Institute for Non-violence in Carmel, CA.  The women were Joan Baez and her two sisters, Mimi Farina and Pauline Marden.

 

 

Sources: Smithsonian American Art Collection
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"Girls say yes..."

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This antidraft poster features singer and activist Joan Baez (left) with her sisters.



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Girls Say Yes to Boys Who Say No  ca 1968
Sources: http://nmaa-ryder.si.edu/collections/exhibits/posters/objects/aa-noframe.html?/collections/exhibits/posters/objects/AA-post115_.html
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JWTK, I was a little young for all of it to really participate in protests or whatever, but it seems like there was a lot of bad treatment of those soldiers, once they came back from Viet Nam. I remember stories about people spitting on them, calling them names, and so forth. Unlike this time around, some people equated hating the war with hating those who fought it, many of who were drafted, and only went because they had to or because they thought it was their patriotic duty, not because they thought the war was a just one... At least in this *current* wrong, stupid war that Bush dragged us into, there seems to be a prevailing spirit of "I support the soldiers, but not the war." Again, I was not old enough for my peers to go to Viet Nam, (at least, as long as they went on to college, and I was at a private, college-prep high school, so all the boys I knew *did* go on to college), so my knowledge came mostly from the nightly news...

I am curious: what do others here remember about the way soldiers returning from Viet Nam were treated? Or, if you went, how were you and your buddies treated when you got back to the States?

Katherine
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