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I am thinking about buying a video camera with hard disk. What do you recommend I look for and how to I determine the right one.

I already have a mini DV one that I hate as the max miniDV tape I can find goes 90 minutes and that only on LP


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"The best HDD camcorder recommended by ConsumerSearch.com is Sony HDR-HC3 (*est. $1,130) "

 by noorhakim on Jun 05 2007 (32 months ago)
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Sony HDR-HC3 (*est. $1,130)

HD digital camcorder.
High-definition camcorders let you shoot video that's nearly three times as detailed as standard definition. And although prices are dropping, there are still some challenges to the format. In the HD mode, the Sony's image quality is very sharp overall, with good color balance. Standard-definition footage is also above average. Low-light performance when shooting in HD is excellent. One catch right now is that you have to use the camcorder as the playback device unless your computer has an $800 Blu-ray DVD burner.

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... In reviews, the Sony HDR-HC3 (*est. $1,130) and the Canon HV10 (*est. $1,100) run neck and neck, and each has its own strengths and weaknesses. At CamcorderInfo.com, the Sony HDR-HC3 is the
highest rated camcorder currently on the market. In a review written by David Kender and site founder Robin Liss, editors say that the camcorder blends Sony's high image quality with ease of use. In the HD mode, the picture is very sharp overall, with good color balance. Saturation is also good, but it is not excessive and does not detract from the image.

In his review for CNet.com, Denny Atkin also likes the Sony's HD image, and says that the level of detail is a dramatic improvement over the best miniDV camcorders the site has tested. He adds that in SD, "video quality remains good, with reasonably good detail, accurate color, and sharp images in outdoor shots." One negative is that low-light performance in SD is not as good as in high-definition, where it is excellent.

Like other Sony camcorders, reviews say the HDR-HC3 is very easy to use. Manual controls, while more plentiful than other Sony models, have been pared back compared to Sony's first HD camcorder, the HDR-HC1. Sony's Easy button now takes over almost all user functions. Since most people will be using the camcorder as the playback device for the videos they shoot, Sony has wisely included an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) output, keeping the camcorder-TV connection all-digital and making hookup much easier.

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Product Details :
Sony Handycam® HDR-HC3 HDV Digital Camcorder

Consumer Rating: 4.5/5 stars

Price Range $797.00 - $1,369.00

Manufacturer: Sony

The HC3 sets the industry standard in resolution quality with its ClearVid CMOS image sensorâ„¢, capturing precise detail and superior color reproduction. Dual record Mode lets you capture 2.3 megapixel stills while shooting high definition video. Smooth slow recording captures fast movement with precise detail for slow motion playback.

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http://www.shopping.com/xGS-32224927~NS-1~linkin_id-8008764

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Amazon.com user review :

Good quality video - especially outdoors, June 12, 2006
By D. Dwyer "amazonian1000" (Gilbert, AZ)

I have had this camcorder for about 2 weeks now. Overall I'm pleased. Most of my video playback has been done via a Pioneer 50" plasma HDTV so I do have a very nice playback source to judge the recorded video quality.

Disclaimer - I am a novice photographer/videographer so people might correct my few gripes saying, "if you'd just set the flux capacitor settings to ...," but my review should be applicable to people that operate the camera in "easy" mode (all of my recordings have either been done in 'easy mode' or with the auto settings - not quite sure what the difference is other than 'easy mode' doesn't let you adjust anything).

Pros:
- Incredible detail & pretty good color reproduction when photographing outdoors. Seriously, it is almost (but not quite) as nice as watching cable/satellite HD when hooked up to an HDTV w/HDMI and/or component video connections - (I've tried both, not much noticable difference between the two, although HDMI is more convenient). I don't believe (and I've read the specs on the format, so I'm pretty certain), that HDV format will produce true HD quality video but in the right lighting conditions, what is reproduced is definitely better than watching an anamorphic widescreen DVD on a progressive scan player so I'd say it's somewhere between HD and SD in quality (when the lighting is ideal).
- Easy to operate. Great menuing system and the controls are easy to use.
- Very nice LCD display & view finder
- Compact, ergonomic design that fits well in your hand
- Very sturdy, robust feel to the camcorder

Cons:
- Picture quality degrades quickly in lower light conditions including normal indoor lighting almost to the point that I'm not sure if it's any better than standard DV quality (other than the nice widescreen format). I bought an external 3 watt Sony flash that helps at close range but even then, color reproduction is not as good as outdoors and I notice more artifacts (blurriness in certain images & patterns, pixelation, etc.). I'd probably venture to guess that if all of your videotaping is done indoors, you might be better served with a 3 CCD camcorder than this one - but outdoors, there's no comparison.
- Images with bright sources behind them get washed out. I videotaped a sunset and everything other than the sunset, itself, was completely washed out. I imagine this is one of the things that the white balance or exposure can correct but in Easy/Auto mode, no such luck (par for the course???).
- Camera often requires two hands to hold steady to avoid jittery video. Maybe it's just the fact that the quality with this Sony is so sharp, but even my POS JVC mini-DV camcorder from 6 years ago seemed to have a better anti-shake mechanism. Those w/steady hands, tripods, or willing to use two hands need not worry.
- Sony seems to be hiding driver/software support for the camcorder and the HDV format. There's little to no help in the manual about how to upload video to a PC in HD format unless "it's a Sony VAIO." I'm pretty turned off by it. Digging around, it seems that if you're a PC user, you need Windows XP SP2 or else you have to jump through hoops to get it to work. I hooked it up to my mother's Mac and had no problems capturing the HDV video using iMovie. I'd love to know what some of the other reviewers are using (hardware/software) to down convert the video for standard DVD (MPEG-2) format - others have said they've had great results. When I down convert, the results look choppy, grainy, and there are compression artifacts everywhere (this really isn't the camcorder's fault, though).
- Battery life - this might be par for the course with camcorders these days, but I just got back from the zoo where I did lots of record/pause/record/pause recording for a few seconds at a time and the freshly charged battery only had about 35 minutes of recording life. I'll probably buy a second battery.
- Some flimsy platic covers that cover the AV outputs and AC adaptor and seem destined to break off at some point in the future.

Unless you're a 'glass is half full' person, it's always easier to cite the cons of a product than its pros. Overall, I am very pleased and if it wasn't the few complaints that I've listed, I would've given this 5 stars. My only serious gripe is the video quality drop-off in lower light settings, but my old mini-DV JVC camcorder had the same problem (it was only $500, though). If they had a 3 CCD version of this for under 2K, it'd probably be perfect. Some form of HD MPEG-4 recording format would also be nice, but for now, I can't imagine a consumer HD camcorder in this price range being any better.

Bottomline, if you're eager to start videotaping in HD format and aren't a professional with at least 5K to drop, you should be pleased with this camcorder, but taylor your expectations for indoor/low-light recording and buy a nice a flash.

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2. awesome!, April 24, 2006
By J. Coons "the authority" (san diego)

After recording and playing video all weekend, my simple conclusion is this video camera is AWESOME. Yes it is expensive, but, WOW the pictures is fantastic when hooked up to my hi-def plasma or played back on my iMac. It is as small and light as any normal video camera. It takes regular DV tapes, and is easy to use and easy to play back on the TV with either HDMI or Component cables if you don't have HDMI.

If you are considering a new video camera, GET THIS CAMERA.
It is absolutely worth the money.

I went back an looked at my old video tapes, video I once though looked good now looks terrible compared to the images from this sony camera. I haven't been this thrilled with a purchase in a long time.
Sources: http://www.consumersearch.com/www/photo_and_video/digital-camcorders/index.html
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"JVC Everio GZ-MG57"

 by newbie2268986 on Jun 11 2007 (32 months ago)
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out of 10"Best Hard Drive unit out there"
by greener1 (see profile) - March 28, 2007

Pros:Very good pix quality in low light

Cons:None that bothered me

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small, good software, 3rd geneeration unit and jvc has finally gotten it right, no artifacting, good in low light, very good responding auto focus, amazing 7 hours of video at high quality setting, software has been updated from previous models. jvc tech support led me through software download on getting videos to desktop, after that it is very very easy, and as small as a lot of digital still cameras, for the money this cant be beat
Sources: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-camcorders/jvc-everio-gz-mg57/4864-6500_7-32102351.html?ctype=msgid&messageSiteID=7&messageID=2398214&cval=2398214
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"Dont' switch from MiniDV if you want to easily edit your footage."

 by ChuckEngels on Jun 07 2007 (32 months ago)
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Hard Drive camcorders record in mpeg format, the reason you can get more than 60 minutes of video.

The video you record however is much more highly compressed than the video recorded on MiniDV tape.

 

Editing the files from the hard drive camcorders is also a serious consideration.  If you want to edit them effectively and with good quality it will be hard to find an editor that will work well.  I highly suggest that you stick with the MiniDV and maybe consider moving up to HiDef rather than to Hard Drive :)

Sources: http://www.muvipix.com
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