Dismiss

askville homepage
Asked by SuperFish 21 months ago ( Send a Compliment)

Details:

I've looked it up and all I can find are definitions for "black irish" ethnography, which is supposed to be a myth (and the dark hair/blue eyes combination is only one theory.) Ralph Fiennes, Maggie and Jake Gyllenhaal, Christina Ricci... I can count on one hand how many celebreties have these features. Anybody know where they come from, and why they're so uncommon?


0
Forward to Friends Forward to friends
Discuss this question (13 comments) why can't I answer? add to Digg Digg it! add to Facebook Add to Facebook Report abuse

av-answers (2)
(13)
 
show all details - hide all details

"I have the same natural coloring."

Hightest Level: 6 by Maggie_is_dancing on Mar 01 2008 (21 months ago)
Best Answer Winner! Best Answer
Official Rating
Three and a half stars
Without hair dye and if you don't count the gray hairs, I have dark brown hair, very fair skin which is really white with pinkish hues and no oranges or greens, and I have very blue eyes. This is typical English coloring. My family is primarily from England and when I've visited in England I see the same skin/hair/eyes combination time and again. In my life I have primarily dated men with dark brown hair, fair skin, and blue eyes. They were all English and some other mixed. Usually they were English/German.  This might be Germanic too but I've always thought of it as English.

The Black Irish are supposed to be the descendants of Spanish sailors who were shipwrecked on the shores of Ireland after the destruction of the Spanish Armada during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. I always thought that they had a slightly darker skin coloration as well. This might be a myth as I have never bothered to investigate it.

Maggie_is_dancing's Recommendations
Product Image
Amazon List Price: $9.95
Used from: $4.32
Average Customer Rating: 5.0 out of 5 (based on 6 reviews)
Like this Answer? Thumb Up (0)

"They are uncommon but they are present in all caucasian groups..."

Hightest Level: 1 by newbie8304997 on Mar 01 2008 (21 months ago)
Official Rating
Three stars
My sister is black haired, european skin color and has blue eyes. Not just blue, the one that you drown in. She has so many guys chasing her for those features that I'm having a hard times all the time trying to protect he from occasional (j)erks...
We live in Bosnia. My whole close family has brown eyes. I'm dark haired but not black... very dark brown but she got BLACK hair, our mom's hair color. As I can understand, my grandmother from mom's side had blue eyes. So my sister got the gene. I read some info about those genes as I was attracted by that combination for a long time. I was surprised that there is so much of that combination in Brazil. Like regular girl on the street would look like she's celebrity actress with black curly hair and sea blue eyes.
But after a while I realized it's just mixing. And after you have right ingredients (genes) there will be your mentioned combination in some case(s). Genes are carrying black hair info as well as blue eyes info. Black hair gene is much easily transferred to next generation (or the one after, skipping that one) and blue eye gene much rarely. But if a wife is black haired and husband is black haired, it's only enough for any grandparent to have had blue eyes (or green which is even more rarity) for the kid to have a chance of getting dark hair/blue eyes. ADVICE: If your daughter is black haired/blue eyed and you also have boy, take him to kickboxing or karate lessons, he might need it for sister protection in the future. :-)
I've never heard of ethnical group that has more common combinations than other except for groups that were in places where lot of different races mixed for a long time (such as Brazil). And also, if there were oriental group involved in Brazil "mix", that would be much rarer phenomenon since they ALL have brown eyes (never saw oriental person with other color than brown - I might be mistaken, though, but for pure blood orientals, I believe, it's impossible).
Like this Answer? Thumb Up (0)




Or ask a question of your own:


 

Latest post on this question's discussion board:

More of the Ancient British and Irish Polly Walker, Elizabeth Taylor. Romano British also can be Cary Grant. The Romano British are not as fair as the Ancient British and Irish but they are not by any means olive skin. Their looks are more common as you go further south in France as well to the coast as well. The ancient Gauls that lived in France to Northern Italy SW Germany to the Alps also shared the same looks at the Ancient British and Irish. Ancient British and Irish as well as the French are very fair with a lot of red in their coloring and many of them freakle. The Germanic people of Northern/ Eastern Germany to Scandanavia are usually fair too but they seem to have a lot more yellowish in the complexions like Tom Felton (Malfoy in Harry Potter) This is not set in stone but I think this is the closest to reality. If you look at Dna, R1b is Ancient British, Irish, French and yes Spanish. 90 perecent of the Irish have this DNA, 80 percent of the Scottish people, 90 percent of the Welsh and 75 percent of the English. The Eastern English from Suffolk to the borders of Scotland have 60 percent R1b to 35 percent Germanic DNA I1A/R1A and 5 percent is Mediteranean DNA. As you go west and NW in England, the more R1b and the more south, the more R1b and more Mediteranean Dna. Southern to Western England has about 75 to 80 percent DNA R1B. More west you go, the mediteranean DNA goes from 5 in the East and 10 percent in the West and into Wales and to Southern England. Germanic DNA in Southern England is about 15 pecent to about 10 percent in Western and Northwestern England. Most of the Germanic DNA in Ireland about 10 percent is from the Vikings. Scotland has about 20 percent. 30 percent on the East Coast and about 15 pecent on the West Coast. The Southern Scottish have about 3 to 5 percent Dna that is mediteranean mostly in the areas the Romans were in and that was in the South north of Hadrians Wall and south of Edinburgh and Glasgow. The French have about 70 percent R1B, 15 pecent mediteranean, 8 percent germanic and now at least 7 percent North African Dna. Most of the Germanic DNA there is in the North and Northeast. Mediteranean is all over but more on the Southern Coast to the SE coast of France. R1B is about 80 to 90 percent in the Northwest in France and about 90 to 100 percent in in the SW of France. Spain also has 70 percent of R1b. 80 percent of Catalonia and Galicia and decreases as you go south. The South of Spain and Portugal has about 65 percent R1B. Basque Country has about 90 to 100 percent R1B. The Spanish have about 5 percent germanic DNA. The North and the coast has the most and decreases as you go south. Most of the rest are mediteranean J2 about 20 pecent. More that is all over Spain and Portugal. About 3 pecent is North African (mainly J1) and 10 percent on the Southern Iberian Coast and decreases as you go North. The remaining is E that is Mediteranean that is European and North African. Germany has about 35 to 40 percent R1b and mostly concentrated in the West and South in the Alps where the percentages are about 70 percent. During the Roman Empire, these areas were considered Celtic before the Germanic takeover during the fall of the Empire. When you get to Scandanavia, about 15 pecent of Swedes are R1B and 5 percent of Finns, 20 percent of Norwegians and about 20 percent of the Danes. The rest of their Dna are R1A and I1A. I believe many of the R1b in Scandanavia is due to much of the slave trade. Many of the Vikings raided the British Isles and Northern France like Normany and have taken many people as slaves to Iceland and to Scandanavia to Holland and to Russia too who was a part of the Viking Slave trade from the 8th to the 11th Centuries. Much of the Germanic DNA of England about 2/3 Viking and less than 1/3 is Anglo Saxon. The Anglo Saxon is about 5 percent of the male DNA of England. Now the female DNA, they do not believe that the germanic DNA had much influence on the gene pools anywhere in Western Europe. The Anglo Saxons that took over England were mainly men. The Vikings had bought over more women than the Anglo Saxons especially in North and Eastern Scotland especially the Orkneys and the Shetlands about up to 40 pecent of the male and female DNA was germanic and about 60 percent was Ancient Scottish or Pict. I have been researching this for years now because I have a love for History especially European. I am Irish on my Dad's side and Southern Italian on my mother's side. I like to think of myself like a Romano Britain for fun. Some English do not seem to like this too much but I think most of them are coming around to this idea. I think it would be more fun to be descendents of the people that built stonehenge than people that came over from Northern Germany and Scandanavia 100 to 1500 years ago. They believe that 80 percent of the population of the British Isles are descendants of the people who lived in the Isles in 12 to 15,000 BC. They believe there were only 4000 people living in the Isles then. Ireland still has no evidence of people then but they have evidence of the 1st people there around 8 to 9000 BC. I think they will find more evidence soon of earlier but they havent yet. People lives in Britain 40 to 50,000 years ago but they believe they they all left during the last ice age. between 22,000 bc to 15 to 13,000 bc that they all retreated back into France or they might have perished. They believed the British Isles had every few trees in the last ice age and that there were reindeer then. Similar to Lappland or the Tundra of Northern Scandanavia today and we know people thrive there. I think it is only a matter of time that they will find evidence of people living in the last ice age in the Isles but they have not found them yet. They only recently found evidence of people there going back to 15000 BC and before that it was 13,000 BC. They said they last people lived there 24,000 bc and now new evidence of people living there at the coldest of the ice age in the isles at 22,000bc when years before they said no one was there. I also believe the Neanderthals are our ancestors but they do not have the evidence yet but I do believe they will. Studying the dna of 7 neanderthals is not much to go by. They need to find more.
Read more & discuss (13 comments)